I first spoke with sally four years ago, her sister had experienced my work and was keen to share with her what went on. Sally then too experienced this medicine, it wonderfully opened its door to her, she became all of nature and later wrote a beautiful article, sharing it with newspapers and magazines, but there was a reluctance to run with it. More recently she has created a patreon account and is now producing a podcast called falling together. She asked me to take part.